"Stark, it's stark. And the object of me getting around to doing that, to bringing it there, was to produce an extreme of the opposite psychic movement. You had to be big and fat and puffy and pink, and wrapped up in ribbons. Not even a nice shocking pink, but a horribly tatty pink, before it could get any where near real black and white. You can't come out of Dylan right into black and white. No way. There's no

friction."