10 years with the MOTHERS

MOTHERS NO. 1: Zappa, Ray Collins, Jimmy Carl Black, Roy Estrada, Elliott Ingber, plus such temporary members as Henry Vestine (later of Canned Heat), Jim Fielder (later of Buffalo Springfield), Alice Stuart (later of the Alice Stuart group),Jim Guercio (later Chicago's producer), Van Dyke Parks (later of the cosmos), and Jeanne from 1964 to 1966, this is the Freak Out group; as Ms. Creamcheese noted, "One guys wears beads and they all smell bad."

MOTHERS NO. 2: Zappa, Cotlins, Black, Estrada, Don P~~eston, Bunk, Gardner ,Jim Sherwood~ Billy Mundi Together in 1966 67 tjiis is the group that cut Absolutely Free in California d then sp4it to New York for the historic six-month engagement at the Garrick Theate~,-wherethéy got r~views.worsé than anyone since the Eugs.